Comments on: Of Phthalates and Anogenital Distances and Feminized Boys, or the Junk Science of Dr. Shanna Swan http://www.elizabethcrum.com/2009/11/19/of-phthalates-and-anogenital-distances-and-feminized-boys-or-the-junk-science-of-dr-shanna-swan/ Elizabeth Crum on Nevada and the nation Fri, 13 Jan 2012 06:08:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Chetly Zarko http://www.elizabethcrum.com/2009/11/19/of-phthalates-and-anogenital-distances-and-feminized-boys-or-the-junk-science-of-dr-shanna-swan/comment-page-1/#comment-3020 Chetly Zarko Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:02:56 +0000 http://www.elizabethcrum.com/?p=1296#comment-3020 One could make a career exposing this stuff. Good work, E. Problem is, the ocean of steaming academic manure swallows up the small beacon light you might cast on the piles of insanely bad junk science that stand out even from that. The real problem is when this crap influences public policy. My first major publication - a 2003 WSJ expose - exposed a piece of "science" on "diversity and its educational benefits" where the researchers' own husband (both psychology profs at U-Mich) co-authored a memo admitting that the data in a particular (unknown then) study were, as I'd label it at best, "mixed". The study was later re-analyzed by the wife during the Supreme Court lawsuits and the testimony was glowing that the data proved U-M's case. Without even asking the question of whether any study could prove such a nebulous idea as diversity having educational benefits, one really has to wonder about researchers who are willing to distort or change previous outcomes or re-interpret data for their desired conclusion. I suspect it even probably happened sub-consciously in this case - that is, the person probably believes so much that it would be difficult to cast as an intentional lie (probably true with Swann here too). The Emperor has no clothes. You'll believe he does if you need or want to. One could make a career exposing this stuff. Good work, E.

Problem is, the ocean of steaming academic manure swallows up the small beacon light you might cast on the piles of insanely bad junk science that stand out even from that.

The real problem is when this crap influences public policy.

My first major publication – a 2003 WSJ expose – exposed a piece of “science” on “diversity and its educational benefits” where the researchers’ own husband (both psychology profs at U-Mich) co-authored a memo admitting that the data in a particular (unknown then) study were, as I’d label it at best, “mixed”. The study was later re-analyzed by the wife during the Supreme Court lawsuits and the testimony was glowing that the data proved U-M’s case. Without even asking the question of whether any study could prove such a nebulous idea as diversity having educational benefits, one really has to wonder about researchers who are willing to distort or change previous outcomes or re-interpret data for their desired conclusion. I suspect it even probably happened sub-consciously in this case – that is, the person probably believes so much that it would be difficult to cast as an intentional lie (probably true with Swann here too). The Emperor has no clothes. You’ll believe he does if you need or want to.

]]> By: Mitch http://www.elizabethcrum.com/2009/11/19/of-phthalates-and-anogenital-distances-and-feminized-boys-or-the-junk-science-of-dr-shanna-swan/comment-page-1/#comment-3018 Mitch Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:50:01 +0000 http://www.elizabethcrum.com/?p=1296#comment-3018 The fact is that the general public is woefully unaware of the scientific method. The public is, however, more than willing to jump on the (fill-in-the-blank) scare tactic du jour. This is sad. Once the Government money dries up, anyone want to wager on how soon Ms. Swan publishes a book and/or a product(s) to keep us all "safe" from the "horrors" she's exposed. The fact is that the general public is woefully unaware of the scientific method. The public is, however, more than willing to jump on the (fill-in-the-blank) scare tactic du jour. This is sad.
Once the Government money dries up, anyone want to wager on how soon Ms. Swan publishes a book and/or a product(s) to keep us all “safe” from the “horrors” she’s exposed.

]]> By: Stix http://www.elizabethcrum.com/2009/11/19/of-phthalates-and-anogenital-distances-and-feminized-boys-or-the-junk-science-of-dr-shanna-swan/comment-page-1/#comment-3017 Stix Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:16:24 +0000 http://www.elizabethcrum.com/?p=1296#comment-3017 Ken, what have you been up to. Were you in the CONgressional Gym measuring?? The whole "expert", "studies' and all around terrible science out there is amazing. Some of the things I hear, I am totally amazed that anyone would take it seriously. Just look ant Manbearpig and the Church of AlGore. They could not replicate any of their so-called computer simulations in the real world, and viola, we have Climate Change instead of Global Warming. The lack of scientific knowledge in most of the US citizenry is appalling. Since an "expert" said something it is taken as fact. Well, I can call myself and "expert" and whore myself around to make money like the Goracle too, I have more scientific study under my belt than he does on Climate studies. Ken, what have you been up to. Were you in the CONgressional Gym measuring??

The whole “expert”, “studies’ and all around terrible science out there is amazing. Some of the things I hear, I am totally amazed that anyone would take it seriously. Just look ant Manbearpig and the Church of AlGore. They could not replicate any of their so-called computer simulations in the real world, and viola, we have Climate Change instead of Global Warming.

The lack of scientific knowledge in most of the US citizenry is appalling. Since an “expert” said something it is taken as fact. Well, I can call myself and “expert” and whore myself around to make money like the Goracle too, I have more scientific study under my belt than he does on Climate studies.

]]> By: Blue Collar Muse http://www.elizabethcrum.com/2009/11/19/of-phthalates-and-anogenital-distances-and-feminized-boys-or-the-junk-science-of-dr-shanna-swan/comment-page-1/#comment-3015 Blue Collar Muse Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:49:34 +0000 http://www.elizabethcrum.com/?p=1296#comment-3015 Not so fast there, Missy! This whole "anogenital thing", as you call it, could go a long way towards explaining the Girly-Man behavior of males like Harry Reid and Tom Daschle. And don't even get me started on Barney Frank ... Not so fast there, Missy!

This whole “anogenital thing”, as you call it, could go a long way towards explaining the Girly-Man behavior of males like Harry Reid and Tom Daschle. And don’t even get me started on Barney Frank …

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